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2014-01-15 Crypto-Gram

I recommend you all subscribe to Bruce Schneier’s Crypto-Gram newsletter if you aren’t subscribed to his blog. Today’s Crypto-Gram, for example, has this excellent passage:

Not only is ubiquitous surveillance ineffective, it is extraordinarily costly. I don’t mean just the budgets, which will continue to skyrocket. Or the diplomatic costs, as country after country learns of our surveillance programs against their citizens. I’m also talking about the cost to our society. It breaks so much of what our society has built. It breaks our political systems, as Congress is unable to provide any meaningful oversight and citizens are kept in the dark about what government does. It breaks our legal systems, as laws are ignored or reinterpreted, and people are unable to challenge government actions in court. It breaks our commercial systems, as US computer products and services are no longer trusted worldwide. It breaks our technical systems, as the very protocols of the Internet become untrusted. And it breaks our social systems; the loss of privacy, freedom, and liberty is much more damaging to our society than the occasional act of random violence.
– Bruce Schneier, How the NSA Threatens National Security


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2013-09-06 Crypto

Concerned by all the Snowden stuff? I am. I’ve had some friends use encrypted mail. Thanks!

I use GPG and you can download my public keys from a public keyserver. I’d be happy to keep our communications encrypted.

I’m also thinking of using the Raspberry Pi I got as a mail server. It would be always on. I think I’d like that. I recently found some instructions on how to do that in a German magazine (behind a paywall). Some alternative articles I’ll be reading later:

I really like what Bruce Schneier has to say. This, for example:

The NSA has turned the fabric of the internet into a vast surveillance platform, but they are not magical. They’re limited by the same economic realities as the rest of us, and our best defense is to make surveillance of us as expensive as possible.

Trust the math. Encryption is your friend. Use it well, and do your best to ensure that nothing can compromise it. That’s how you can remain secure even in the face of the NSA.

– Bruce Schneier, How to remain secure against NSA surveillance

By subverting the internet at every level to make it a vast, multi-layered and robust surveillance platform, the NSA has undermined a fundamental social contract. The companies that build and manage our internet infrastructure, the companies that create and sell us our hardware and software, or the companies that host our data: we can no longer trust them to be ethical internet stewards.

This is not the internet the world needs, or the internet its creators envisioned. We need to take it back.

And by we, I mean the engineering community.

– Bruce Schneier, The US government has betrayed the internet. We need to take it back

I remember when Richard Stallman started saying people should pay with cash, not credit and debit cards. I thought it was paranoid but cool. There was no need for me to follow suit.

I’ve been reducing my use of credit and debit cards in recent weeks.


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So now I’m trying to convert the PiMAME SD card I have into a card suitable for the mail server. There is a lot of unnecessary stuff to remove. Right now I feel that debfoster is my friend.

I’ve setup Dovecot. It seems to work. I’ll need to write it up one day. I’m using my alex@gnu.org account to test it all. I’m already getting a lot of spam. Aaargh, that’s what Gmail is best at: spam filtering!

Reading mail within my WLAN works. Now I need to investigate FreeDNS.


Are you having an issues with mail being rejected? I’ve heard that if you run a mail server on a home Internet connection one could have this issue.

re: Swiss hosting (I saw your previous post): I recently opened an account with edis.at and choose a Swiss hosted VPS. So far so good.

Personally, I like the BeagleBone Black over the RPi, but something else you can do with the little guy is run a tor relay on it.

Josh 2013-09-24 22:16 UTC

I have no problems with mail getting rejected since I use a gnu.org SMTP server to send mail. For testing purposes and in order to get system stuff delivered, I have exim4 sending stuff—but I only ever send mail to my gnu.org account, so that’s hardly a test of my rejection rate.

As for servers: my problem is that the company has Austrian roots and therefore falls under EU and under Austrian jurisdiction, and the server falls under Swiss jurisdiction. Doesn’t that open you up to more privacy invasion? I’m not sure but that’s why I wanted to avoid them. Better to keep it all in the same jurisdiction.

A Tor relay is a noble idea but I remember there being a case in Germany with a guy being arrested because of a Tor server he was running. Sadly, my hesitation—and my wife’s hesitation—are an indication of the chilling effects already in effect.

AlexSchroeder 2013-09-25 07:13 UTC

I think I understand your setup now. I’ve heard some people running SpamAssassian on the Pi, which I think is GPLv2. I assume you are running Raspian?

re servers: Yeah, edis.at is not ideal. I was also looking for a pure swiss server. I had previously used hoststar.ch and it was fine for my tiny website and a mailing list. This time I wanted a VPS (to run a Tor relay) and edis.at came recommended. Did you pick a new hosting provider yet?

re tor: It sounds like he was running an exit node, although it doesn’t say. In the U.S. (at least for now…) it is believed you are ok running a non-exit relay [1]. I am not running an exit relay for these reasons.

[1] https://www.torproject.org/eff/tor-legal-faq.html.en

Josh 2013-09-25 13:02 UTC

Yeah, I’m running Raspian; and no, I haven’t picked a provider yet. I have talked it over with my wife, however. It’s just a matter of time, I think.

AlexSchroeder 2013-09-25 15:23 UTC

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2013-08-11 Chilling Effects

Yesterday I wanted to google for a cartoon in order to show it to my wife. I joked that the keywords would probably get me on a watch list. My wife said I was a fool to use those search terms. Did I need to “prove” myself by googing those terms? When I said that if I stopped looking for information using those terms, I was already accepting that the police state is real. She said, thanks for making it harder for me, should I want to visit the United States again.

Needless to say, the argument was a bit longer and a perfect Saturday was ruined with a late night discussion about the current state of the world surveillance society.

Recommended reading: Restoring Trust in Government and the Internet by Bruce Schneier.


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Yeah, I’m taking you off my blogroll.

– Sean 2013-08-12 01:22 UTC

Sounds dramatic but don’t you see the debate as renegotiating the bargain struck by a democratic society? How we’re going to get to there from here is probably going to be messy.

Alok Singh 2013-08-12 02:58 UTC

Absolutely. The debate is about renegotiating our values. The problem with a surveillance society, of course, is that debate concerning the surveillance itself can be problematic. I also wanted to point out that chilling effects happen on a very personal level, long before we can talk about censorship or self-censorship.

AlexSchroeder 2013-08-12 19:35 UTC

The UK government is going to require everyone to “opt-in” to be able to access porn on the internet. Which I think is a good idea in theory, but what worries me is that it seems that if you don’t opt-in it’s not just porn that is going to be blocked but all manner of other stuff too.


P.S. I just found out about your Old School RPG Planet site last week. That’s very useful, Thank-you!

– Akiyama 2013-08-13 10:57 UTC

Janne Jalkanen wrote about the slippery slope from anti-porn activities to more dubious activities in Finland. It was along time ago but it’s still pertinent. At the time it didn’t seem that all your failed attempts to contact various sites would be recorded. The Panopticon at work. :(

AlexSchroeder 2013-08-13 11:49 UTC

In today’s news - the British Library’s wi-fi filter blocks people from accessing Shakespeare’s Hamlet due to “violent content”.


– Akiyama 2013-08-14 07:40 UTC

As Kristian Köhntopp likes to say on Google+, “All the hands of all the gods of the hindus cannot facepalm enough…”

AlexSchroeder 2013-08-14 14:33 UTC

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2013-07-30 Politics

Looking back at how things have gone in the last year I’d say that all my RPG conversation has moved to Google+ and this wiki-blog has turned into a repository of things I don’t want to loose when Google+ is shut down. All my political thoughts are on Twitter: @kensanata and I’m almost exclusively expressing myself via retweets. I’m also more than happy to talk about it on Twitter.

I post my pictures on Flickr at kensanata for myself and cross-post them to Facebook and a protected Twitter channel for the various family members out there.


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2013-04-30 The Fall

Recently reports have started resurfacing… (I’ve been following Jürgen Hubert on Google+.)

At one point I left the following comment:

The fall of the US from a spiritual leader of freedom and democracy when I was young – in the seventies and eighties I knew nothing of Vietnam and I grew up with American pop music – to a war mongering nation, to a nation that systematically tortures prisoners, a nation that refuses due process to prisoners, to a nation that imprisons so many of their own population, to a nation that uses cruel and unusual punishment in the form of Three Strikes and its variations – there are no words for this moral catastrophe. No words.

I’m still torn: was my decision do abandon my ranting online and turn into a gamer (HomoLudens) the right thing to do? After all, if we all retreat into our little shells, if we all tend to our little gardens, then nothing ever changes, right?

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Sorry for being blunt, but the question is: will your ranting and agitation help much more than your shutting in your shell? For me it’s a simple question of what is the next thing I can do that will have the best impact (with additional bonus if only I can do that) – and that is usually doing something for the local community (well, “local” includes also online communities with similar interests), whether it’s gaming, organizing a meetup of some kind or open source coding. Sure, there are people who have it much worse, but I can much better improve the lives of the people around me.

Radomir Dopieralski 2013-04-30 16:47 UTC

No need to apologize. Sometimes a little application of blunt is required.

AlexSchroeder 2013-05-01 00:54 UTC

Yes. (I like to study about communication strategies).

JuanmaMP 2013-05-01 12:45 UTC

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2012-01-18 Privateering For Fun And Profit

Yesterday, I wrote about my thoughts on SOPA and how the USA’s legal arm had grown long indeed.

Today, I want to comment on something I’m seeing in a lot of the statements in protest to SOPA, eg. on Google’s End Piracy, Not Liberty page: “Fighting online piracy is important.” Wil Wheaton says on Today the US Senate is considering legislation that would destroy the free and open Internet: “I’ve probably lost a few hundred dollars in my life to what the MPAA and RIAA define as piracy, and that sucks, but that doesn’t come close to how much money I’ve lost from a certain studio’s creative accounting.”

I agree that SOPA and PIPA are terrible. They will reduce our freedoms, increase legal uncertainty, make it harder to do business, make it harder to host user contributed content (forums, wikis, archives, social networking and more). The goal, of course: Big Hollywood’s Big SOPA Defeat.

But while the citizens of the USA fight stupid legislation (which the USA will then most probably try to impose on other countries as well), let us not forget that the current copyright regime is stupid, too. We need less protection. We need shorter protection. We need less punishment.

I want to be a privateer! sardonic tentacle

Update: Supreme Court Chooses SOPA/PIPA Protest Day To Give A Giant Middle Finger To The Public Domain – they keep extending copyright, what a shame! I prefer the Public Domain.

Update: I love this rant: Why I'm a pirate!

Update: A step in the right direction: Another Interesting White House Petition: Reduce The Term Of Copyright – even though 56 years is still way too long and even though the president appears to be the wrong addressee.


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2012-01-17 SOPA Blackout Protest

I just saw Twitter CEO says SOPA blackout protest "silly" on BoingBoing. I wonder: Should I shut down Emacs Wiki for US residents? I’d have to do a quick geo location of the IP numbers before serving anything. That sucks.

Do US #Emacs users require a reminder to fight #SOPA and # PIPA? I think Emacswiki will stay up for the USA. I doubt US Congress uses it.

I always felt that I was as safe as I can be running Emacs Wiki: I live in Switzerland, the server is hosted in Germany, the domain name registrar is French, the top-level .org domain is the only thing connecting it to the USA. But then I read US Can Extradite UK Student For Copyright Infringement, Despite Site Being Legal In The UK – and now I wonder about the worst case. Perhaps I should get myself a different domain name.

Actually, I think the main problem is that with all the scare mongering around copyright infringement and the astronomical punishments dealt out in the US, I have lost my confidence in their judicial system when it comes to copyright and patents. The most positive explanation for that is that I’m just misinterpreting all the bad news I’m reading online. My impression is formed by following @internetlaw, @privacylaw, @techdirt and @boingboing, following the occasional link. I end up reading Actual damages for single unauthorized download of software program held to be cost of single license fee (from $1,370,590 down to $4,200) and I wonder how much it cost the accused in time, energy and money to get this result. I would not want to fight this battle in court, even if I win.

Case in point: How USPTO's recklessness destroys business, innovation, and competition – a company produces something and years later a competitor is awarded a patent. The cost of going to court is prohibitive, and so they just give up.

Overprotective copyright and a judicial system that encourages statutory damages, patent offices unable to cope with new technology, a highly networked world making it easy to publish internationally with incompatible legal systems. It makes my head hurt!

Update: I decided to post a more personal message on EmacsWiki:2012-01-18.


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2012-01-05 American Charities I Like

The EmacsWiki:EmacsWiki page says “If you like the site and want to contribute something, contribute either time or money: Write content, fix typos, clean up pages by removing old discussions, merging and splitting pages, and linking up and down the page hierarchy. If you do not have time, you can always donate money. Show your support by saying on your homepage on this wiki how much you donated to charity because of the Emacs Wiki.”

But which charities would I prefer, personally? Certainly not the National Rifle Association!

  1. EFF – the Electronic Frontier Foundation fights for your rights when it comes to the information society. If you can’t fight this fight, help others fight it for you.
  2. FSF – I use Free Software every time I use a desktop or laptop; Richard Stallman warned against the effects of software patents, digital restriction management (DRM), the anti-circumvention provision in the Digital Millenium Copyright Act (DMCR). He deserves our help.
  3. Creative Commons – our world needs more Free Culture.
  4. Wikipedia – I hate the Wikipedia donation “stare” but the truth remains: I use Wikipedia every day. Every day.
  5. Project Gutenberg – As you can see, I’m interested in the abuse and corruption of copyright and patents. Project Gutenberg is something positive, for a change. It’s an example of what we could build if copyright were not as strong as it is today. We need much less protection such that much more of these projects can spring up.
  6. Internet Archive – As our culture moves online (movies, music, graphics, games, writing, combinations of them all), we need to think about conservation. What will future historians study if they want to understand us? What happens to your web pages and your blogs when you die? The Internet Archive is the first step in the right direction. Another positive project!

I want to be more positive. :) ok

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I agree about Wikipedia, I finally contributed to them because of the amount of benefit I have derived from their existence.

I have looked into the Electronic Frontier Foundation, the one thing that has held me back is that they spend a bit more on administrative costs than most foundations I normally contribute to (I like as much of my money going to the cause as possible). This segues to my plug for Charity Navigator, which I always try to use when evaluating a charity.

Adrian 2012-01-06 22:09 UTC

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2011-12-16 SOPA and NDAA

Copyright is killing music

@3liza: #NDAA and #SOPA both passed. And it didn’t matter how we voted, who we phoned, what petitions we signed, which websites we made.

I’m happy not to be living in the USA. The sad thing is that the USA doesn’t just export “intellectual property” in the form of music, it also exports the legal framework to install this market abroad. Sooner or later a lot of people around the world have to fight their local battles to prevent the same kind of idiocy from happening in their own countries.

The Stop Online Piracy Act is terrible. I’ve been following BoingBoing on SOPA for a while. Check TechDirt on the SOPA amendments for some dispairingly inane Congress. Way to go! Where’s Lawrence Lessig and his Rootstrikers movement?

What I find particularly disappointing is that these days, the Digital Millennium Copyright Act is being held up as a model even though its “anti-circumvention” provisions are also terrible (EFF on DMCA). Soon after it was introduced, Switzerland revised its copyright law. We are still allowed to download stuff for personal use (“Eigengebrauch”). The government recently confirmed this. That means that if I have something that is “protected” by DRM, I am still allowed to make a copy for myself. To exercise my right, I need to circumvent the restrictions placed on the thing I want to copy. It turns out that thanks to the USA’s export of legal frameworks, the Swiss copyright law now also has an anti-circumvention article (Art. 39a Schutz technischer Massnahmen). Thus, while I am allowed to circumvent DRM in order to exercise my legal rights, others are prohibited from “creating, importing, offering, selling, distributing, renting, letting, advertizing or owning with the intent to profit” the very tools that I need to exercise my legal rights.

SOPA will lead to the same levels of inanity, I’m sure. Just google for DNS alternatives.

As for the rest… For obvious reasons I don’t care whether the National Defense Authorization Act affects US citizens or not. At least they get to taste some of what they are serving the rest of the world. It’s just like the Transportation Security Administration and how they make life miserable for everybody without actually helping much (BoingBoing on TSA). People like me just start avoiding the USA.

Oh, and while I’m thinking of the USA – let us remember Iraq and the nearly 4500 Americans killed, the 32000 Americans injured [1] and the more than 150000 Iraqis killed.


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Clinton (8 years):

  1. Somalia
  2. Iraq
  3. Yugoslavia/Bosnia/Serbia
  4. Haiti
  5. Albania
  6. Sudan
  7. Afghanistan
  8. Iraq
  9. DMCA
  10. Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act
  11. Colombia

Bush Junior (8 years):

  1. Afghanistan
  2. USAPA
  3. Guantanamo
  4. Philippines
  5. Iraq
  6. Yemen
  7. Haiti
  8. Somalia
  9. Syria

Obama (4 years):

  1. Camp Guantanamo
  2. Iraq for 3 years
  3. Afghanistan
  4. UN diplomatic spying
  5. Pakistan
  6. Assassination of Bin Laden
  7. Yemen
  8. Stuxnet
  9. Libya
  10. SOPA

The USA is usually worse under a Democratic Party executive. I believe this is because there is fewer opposition by citizens.

AaronHawley 2011-12-19 02:14 UTC


AlexSchroeder 2011-12-20 07:46 UTC

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2011-11-15 Occupy


To maintain hygiene, the students cannot use tents to keep themselves warm; to manage the space, students must be kept out; to address “conflict issues,” students had to be attacked; and to keep the students safe, they will be beaten. – The Grass Is Closed, zunguzungu

The OWS news and the police action that goes along with it has been on my mind for quite a while now. Mostly because I follow @xeni on Twitter and she retweets so much of what is going on. Occasionally I read reports from witnesses—such as the one where I got the above quote from—and usually I just cringe inside.

I liked Hawaii. I’d love to go there again. I wanted to see Yellowstone park, visit some of the big cities in the US. But not this. I’ve stopped blogging about Iran, Iraq, Israel, Palestine and the US involvement with all of them, but my anger is still there, festering deep below the surface. I wrote some angry things back then. I resolved not to visit the USA until things get better. I’m currently assuming this won’t happen in the next decade.

At work, people are sometimes astonished. How bullheaded do you have to be? I needed to draw a line somewhere. This is my line. Last year I got invited to Eclipse Con 2010 in San Francisco and declined. When asked, I sent them a link with the latest TSA scandal or similar stories such as Dr Peter Watts, Canadian science fiction writer, beaten and arrested at US border.

Back to the Occupy movement. A few days ago I read another blog post from a person that had gotten arrested, and I decided to write an email. Yes, I know it’s futile. I think I need to do these things in order to keep my sanity.

Here’s what I wrote:

Dear Sir

I just read the account of one of the recent arrests and I am disgusted by the way the police is acting—apparently on your behalf.

The account I read:

As a citizen of Austria and France living in Switzerland, my greatest fear is that recent developments regarding police, privatization, copyright excesses and many more things—all the things the occupiers are protesting against—will end up being imported into our countries. The USA has long ceased to be a place to look up to.

Alexander Schröder
Zürich, Switzerland

I think the world’s main problem is that there is no administration anywhere that is doing the right thing. There is no place to look up to, anywhere. We need to somehow mobilize that secret fire within ourselves, within each other, in order to oppose the change we do not want and in order to exact the change we do want—to steer this boat in a direction that benefits more people, not less people (It's the Inequality, Stupid, Mother Jones).


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I was in New York three weeks ago and of course I passed by Zucotti Park. For me the main thing I learned is that it seemed whimsical; a couple hundred people squatting in a “park” that is mostly concrete. The drums were barely able to keep up with the noise from construction and traffic around it. IMHO, the kind of police action seen tonight gives the Occupy movement more credence than their two months of protesting.

Harald 2011-11-15 12:46 UTC

Very similar to what you (don’t) see at Occupy Paradeplatz.

AlexSchroeder 2011-11-15 13:00 UTC

Ich finde was du tust richtig: ich war damals gern in den USA (du warst ca. 3 jahre alt und die amis meinten: “ah from australia, i know! :-)) Aber unter den heutigen umständen bringen mich keine 3 pferde in die usa, selbst wenn ich alles bezahlt bekäme. Was die amis / amerikanischen politiker machen, ist beschämend… Aber wir sind nicht besser: http://www.zeit.de/digital/internet/2011-12/wikileaks-spy-files Und die bevölkerung lässt sich blind zur schlachtbank führen… Wobei ich mir nun auch den elektronischen ausweis hab machen lassen um dann in die schule rein kommen zu können:-( Sonst hätte ich wohl vor gericht gehen müssen und dazu hab ich das geld nicht… Die katze, die sich in den schwanz beisst… Aber wo es geht, sollten wir agieren! :-)

– MOM 2011-12-03 09:31 UTC

Sorry für die Nekromantie, aber ich bin erst gerade über diesen Post gestolpert. Alex, ich kann deine Probleme völlig nachvollziehen, aber ich finde, du ziehst die falschen Schlüsse. Amerika hat sich vor allem in den letzten 10 Jahren extrem zum schlechten hin entwickelt, und viele der momentan dominierenden gesellschaftlichen und politischen Strömungen halte ich für katastrophal. Das ist natürlich enttäuschend für ein Land, das lange das grosse Vorbild in Sachen Demokratie und Menschenrechte war. Aber genau das beruhte ja nicht nur auf den gerade herrschenden Zuständen, sondern auch auf der Fähigkeit des Landes, sich zu hinterfragen und sich weiter zu entwickeln. Sklaverei und Rassentrennung wurden ja schliesslich auch irgendwann abgeschafft, und der Vietnamkrieg musste irgendwann eingestellt werden. Alle diese Dinge wurden einmal von der Mehrheit der Bevölkerung befürwortet und sind heute trotzdem völlig undenkbar (bis auf sinnlose Kriege vielleicht ;)). Schliesslich waren ja nicht nur die Befürworter Amerikaner, sondern auch die Gegner, und die haben sich schlussendlich durchgesetzt. Heute ist es genauso: Die Wall Street-Leute sind Amerikaner, genauso wie ihre Widersacher. Nicht nur der Darwin-Kapitalismus kommt aus den USA, sondern auch die Kritik daran. In diesem Kontext sehe ich es nicht als zielführend an, sich sozusagen Amerika zu verweigern. Wäre es nicht sogar das Beste, hinzugehen und mit den Leuten zu sprechen? Auch am grössten Betonkopf geht eine offene Diskussion nicht spurlos vorüber.

– Lukas 2011-12-23 17:06 UTC

Du hast für den allgemeinen Fall vielleicht recht. So genau kann man das aber wohl nicht entscheiden. Im Falle der Apartheid wurde Südafrika ja auch boykottiert. Wikipedia meint hierzu: “Aufgrund dieser in ihrer Summe bedeutsamen Faktoren, also des Widerstandes der Schwarzen, des internationalen Druckes, der ökonomischen Krise, des Wechsels der Regierungsführung von Botha zu de Klerk sowie der Standhaftigkeit Mandelas bei den Verhandlungen mit de Klerk, brach die weiße Autorität in den frühen 1990er Jahren Schritt für Schritt zusammen.” Irgendwo her muss der internationale Druck aber kommen. Ich glaube wirklich, dass Druck nötig ist. Vor der Wahl Obamas hofften ja viele auf eine Verbesserung der Zustände. Aber Hoffnung ist kein Plan! Und wie man auf Aaron Hawleys Liste sieht, hat sich die Hoffnung auch nicht bewahrheitet.

Klar, alle Probleme der Amerikaner wurden schlussendlich auch wieder durch Amerikaner gelöst. Insofern ist das ein Zeichen dafür, dass der “Druck” der sich zurückziehenden Einzelpersonen nicht wirklich nützt. Vielleicht muss ich das einfach machen, damit ich als Mensch besser damit fertig werde. So kann ich mir selber sagen, dass ich “etwas” dagegen gemacht habe. Ich habe ein kleines, ein sehr kleines und unbedeutendes Zeichen gesetzt.

Wie ich anderweitig geschrieben habe, exportiert Amerika ja auch einen Teil seiner beschissenen gesetzlichen Bestimmungen über internationale Verträge wie die WIPO (2011-12-16 SOPA and NDAA). Ich habe mich damals zum Beispiel an einer Aktion gegen Softwarepatente in der Schweiz oder bei der Reform des Urheberrechtes oder beim Weltgipfel zur Informationsgesellschaft engagiert. Da insgesamt nicht wirklich viel tolles herausgekommen ist, bin ich Zyniker geworden. Vielleicht müssen das einfach jüngere Leute übernehmen, solange sie die Kraft dazu noch haben. Ich verabschiede mich schon mal aus der Diskussion mit den Betonköpfen.

AlexSchroeder 2011-12-28 10:49 UTC

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