# 2018-02-05 Moku Pona

Inspired by Bongusta, I wrote a simple Gopher aggregator using Perl and called it moku pona which is toki pona for good food, or tasty, in other words a translation of Bongusta.

Take a look: moku pona sources & documentation.

Its output is a gopher menu you can browse yourself or host publically. It looks a bit like the Recent Changes of a wiki. New items show up at the top and disappear from the bottom so everybody is just mentioned once.

Here’s how I added everybody who has posted to Gopher Club in 2018:

mkdir -p ~/.moku-pona
echo /phlogs/ | nc sdf.org 70 \
| sed -ne "s/$[0-9][0-9]-[A-Z][a-z][a-z]-2018$ *//p" \
>> ~/.moku-pona/sites.txt

Then I clicked through them all, trying to see whether they were actually active, and whether I felt I might want to read some more, and removed the little comments for each username, and here we are:

moku-pona add sdf.org:70/1/users/auzymoto/phlog "auzymoto"
moku-pona add dataswamp.org:70/1/~solene/ "solene"

Next, update the list:

moku-pona update

And then read it. You’ll get most of the benefit when you run it the next day, of course. That’s when you’ll see updated phlogs move to the top.

vf1 ~/.moku-pona/updates.txt

Yeah, VF-1 is the best Gopher client.

Tags:

\$ moku-pona update
Fetching auzymoto...unchanged
Fetching cat...unchanged
Fetching cpider...unchanged
Fetching daphne...unchanged
Fetching gunnarfrost...unchanged
Fetching imrowan...unchanged
Fetching jandal...unchanged
Fetching jebug29...unchanged
Fetching jirka...unchanged
Fetching jynx...unchanged
Fetching jzp...unchanged
Fetching kensanata...unchanged
Fetching kvothe...unchanged
Fetching logout...unchanged
Fetching melton...unchanged
Fetching mhj...unchanged
Fetching notptr...unchanged
Fetching nydel...unchanged
Fetching papa...unchanged
Fetching pet84rik...unchanged
Fetching psztrnk...unchanged
Fetching slugmax...unchanged
Fetching snowdusk...unchanged
Fetching solderpunk...unchanged
Fetching sparcipx...unchanged
Fetching sysdharma...unchanged
Fetching tfurrows...unchanged
Fetching tomasino...unchanged
Fetching uninformativ...unchanged
Fetching xmanmonk...unchanged
Fetching yargo...unchanged
Fetching zelbrium...unchanged
Fetching zlg...unchanged

– Alex Schroeder 2018-02-05 14:18 UTC

Today I am traveling and I realized that moku pona needs to be installed online somewhere!

– Alex 2018-02-06 07:34 UTC

Thank you, kvothe, for the nice words about moku pona. This warms my heart.

– Alex 2018-02-06 17:19 UTC

Then again, psztrnk is critical of aggregating in the first place. I’m not sure what to say to that.

– Alex Schroeder 2018-02-06 20:27 UTC

What about Bongusta, asks logout. I don’t know. Bongusta was the first site where I saw phlogs from outside SDF. That was very important for me, and I imagine it will remain important in the future. Having a well known starting point is important.

Plus, if gopherspace grows, we will soon run into preferences. Perhaps I would like to avoid this phlog or that phlog, or I’ll want to add a phlog that somebody else doesn’t want to add. The freedom to do different is important to me, even if there is no immediate need for it right now.

It’s cool to have a tool that enables people to run their own aggregators without people feeling like they need to. It’s like any other freedom: you are free to service your own car, but you are also free to take a cab, or hitch a ride, or anything else. How many different kinds of public aggregators will we need in a world where 28 of 36 phlogs I follow are on SDF and I guess the total number of sites I might be interested in is not much more than that? One? Two? Three? Not much more than that is my guess. And that’s why Bongusta absolutely has a place, even if there are tools that enable other people to run similar sites. So, having the freedom to run an aggregator is super cool, even if there is just a need to run one or two.

In short, I would love for Bongusta to stay.

– Alex Schroeder 2018-02-06 20:50 UTC

And then there’s auzymoto’s post talking about two kinds of subscriptions: subscribe to changes to a gophermap like moku pona does. or actually spider a site and look for changes. Auzymoto also lists some pitfalls for this: links leaving the site, circular links, stuff like that. And I’d also think about all the false positives I can see. I’m not interested in all the new links, I think. I’m just looking for new day posts. Perhaps a possible compromise is to subscribe to gophermaps and list any addition to that gopher map in the aggregated view? It would only work one or two levels deep, I guess. Perhaps that is limited enough for it work.

– Alex Schroeder 2018-02-06 21:09 UTC

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