Comments on 2020-01-01 What about Oddmuse?

For what it’s worth, I found the OddMuse way of dealing with images much easier than PmWiki’s attachment system, and used it accordingly. But yeah, comments and day pages could be better handled. Not that mixing a blog and a wiki worked all that well for me. The two are fundamentally different media. And the promise of reworking old blog posts into more permanent article is moot when you have to copy-paste manually anyway. Assuming you’d even want to destroy your own historical context.

Felix 2020-01-05 12:36 UTC

I guess you could say that it didn’t really for me either: I ended up having a blog built on wiki tech, but not on wiki culture. 😒

– Alex Schroeder 2020-01-05 12:52 UTC

Perhaps because a blog built on wiki culture is an oxymoron. 😉 It’s also kind of pointless. What exactly stops anyone from going back and editing old blog posts on an ordinary blog if the need arises? What advantage does a wiki provide here? OddMuse was just what I needed to rescue my old website, for a number of reasons... except for those parts that were better off turned into static pages, like the game library and blog archive. And more content might end up having the same fate. It’s not like I have any collaborators left to worry about.

Felix 2020-01-05 18:59 UTC

Absolutely true. And for me and my RPG interest I have a related problem: I sometimes revise my ideas and so I could in theory write a wiki and keep it in the Wiki Now, forgetting the past. But no, I keep posting blog posts, linking to old stuff, never quite assembling a document collection for a snapshot in time. Like time and dust, things accrete and sink deeper and deeper into the past, and new layers cover everything.

I guess in the end it is a question of affordance. The wiki allows us to pivot and change precisely because it has so little built in blog-supporting structure.

– Alex Schroeder 2020-01-05 20:22 UTC

Which reminds me. Before the big change, No Time To Play was all blog, and that meant content that should have been timeless ended up buried. Even tags and categories weren’t enough of a fix. But in the middle of the big migration I found that, conversely, some of the content needed to stay chronological. Even if parts of it also ended up in the wiki now.

Well, “wiki now”. Even on the wiki, all articles have their original publication date at the top, unless I forgot to add it. No matter what, we need the historical context.

Which, I suppose, is also why in practice most wiki pages remain in the form of a conversation, with little if anything moved to the top. Go figure.

Felix 2020-01-06 07:15 UTC

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– Alex Schroeder 2020-01-06 07:42 UTC

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