Comments on 2020-05-05 I fudged a die

I guess fudging is fine under the following circumstances:

  1. if you’re absolutely never found out because you’re a perfect liar
  2. if you just did it once or you do it so rarely that you cannot remember the last time you did it

What are your options? I think the better question is: how could you have avoided ending up in a situation where you felt that fudging was your only option?

  1. give players more information beforehand so that they can decide to pursue something else
  2. give players more information as the situation develops so that they can decide to call off their current plan
  3. give players more information on the severity of the current situation so that they rethink their current position

A classic move for the last point in classic D&D would be to attack retainers, first.

– Alex Schroeder 2020-05-06 06:31 UTC


I agree that more often than not fudging could easily have been avoided by providing more information, so the players could make a more informed decision.

However, it must also be noted that players don’t always play “perfectly”. Sometimes they just want to go forward recklessly or just trust their luck more than they should (after all, very safe plans may go awry because of dice, and the stupidest of ideas may sometimes work out for the same reason).

I’m pointing this out merely because almost every time when I agonised over character death or the like, my veteran players gave me those looks like they were almost insulted that I thought they didn’t read the situation well. Of course, it does happen, and more so with less experienced players.

Ynas Midgard 2020-05-06 15:36 UTC


I’ve heard of people rolling in front of the players and I’ve heard of people letting the players actually roll the die for their enemies to keep them all involved. Either way would avoid any temptation.

The later seems horrible to me as I had a player back in the day that seemed able to roll a 20 on command and I’m sure he could roll a 1 as well.

– Ruprecht 2020-05-06 15:55 UTC


Yeah, I usually roll in the open – but with the current pandemic we have moved to playing online and there nobody can see the dice I am rolling.

– Alex Schroeder 2020-05-06 17:21 UTC


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